Are there dating apps for married men that don't require a phone number?

Been going round in circles on this one: Are there dating apps for married men that don't require a phone number? Would rather have one honest reply than ten generic ones.

I have had mixed results with a few smaller are there dating apps and it got expensive fast. The bit I cannot work out is which features are worth caring about before committing any real time to it.

• Test how many photos are required at the start while the account is still new
• Read up on how reporting actually works before anything else while the account is still new
• Review the last-active timestamp before writing a single message

The advice I wish I had: read the profile before writing anything. It also makes the meet-up conversation much easier. Zero cost to test it.

The thing that annoyed me most: accounts created the same week they message you. Blocking early costs you nothing. It is not worth a second thought.

When I first started, I answered everything within a day and it made a noticeable difference. It stopped being random after that.

Honestly, the platform matters far less than the profile at least in a mid-sized area. Happy to be argued with.

Tried Datescout community on a whim and it has been the steadier of the two I use.

Respectfully, I read it differently. Free tiers stopped being enough for me after about a month. Happy to be an outlier on that. Worth hearing both sides.

Last month, I replied only to messages with an actual question in them and it saved me a lot of pointless typing. The change was obvious enough to notice without counting.

Honestly, most of the difference comes down to how close people actually are at least in a mid-sized area. Ask again in six months and I may say something else.

Not sure I agree with the thread so far. Free tiers stopped being enough for me after about a month. Your experience may well differ. Different city, different results, probably.

Worth a look at rendate.site if your area is thin on the usual platforms.

If nothing else, do this: turn off notifications and check twice a day. Everything else is secondary to that. Try it for one week only.

• Look at how reporting actually works every time while the account is still new
• Read up on how reporting actually works before writing a single message
• Verify what data the signup form asks for on day one while the account is still new

Two years of this later, the first message decides almost everything once you have been at it a few weeks. That is where I have landed.

Genuine question though — has anyone found are there dating apps that behave differently from the rest? Genuinely do not know the answer.

Different experience here. Photos did more for me than anything I wrote. Take that with the usual caveats. Worth hearing both sides.

For what it is worth, Rendate was the one that finally got me past the first-message stage.

I will be the dissenting voice. The niche options were quieter to the point of being useless. Happy to be an outlier on that. Just adding another data point.

Slightly off-topic but — does this hold up outside big cities? It comes up every few months and never gets settled.

Different experience here. Messaging first made no measurable difference in my case. Could easily be a sample size problem. I would still test it yourself.

Worth a look at over on Datedesire if your area is thin on the usual platforms.

When I stopped overthinking it, I messaged first every single time and nothing changed at all. The change was obvious enough to notice without counting.

• Assess how blocking is handled at the start before you widen your search
• Verify the distance filter default rather than taking the marketing at face value
• Find out what data the signup form asks for up front before you invest any real time
• Work out what data the signup form asks for properly so you are not surprised later

Before anything else: message within a day of matching. It removes about half the frustration. Reversible if you hate it.

Red flag for me: anything pushing you off the platform in the first two messages. It is the clearest signal there is. It is the cheapest filter you have.